Oh-chan & Kimika AND Other Arashi Scandals

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Well, my thought when I first saw the pic was that they looked like bro and sis. 'Cause no matter how I see it, Kimika is older than Oh-chan. ^^ When one of my neighbors posted the news that Oh-chan got Friday-ed, being a clueless, overly positive, and Maou-obsessed girl that I was, I overlooked the suffix -ed and interpreted Friday as July 4 = Maou. Hahahahaha. =p
Anyway, miss you lots, Oz! How have you been? Have you watched Maou? (^_^)
I honestly think the Ohno/Kimiko thing is just friendly. I don't feel any chemistry or "rabu-rabu" feel. They're like two very good friends out for a good time. lol.

Nino's scandal pix made me laugh (was he trying to eat her face??) but Aiba's photo's made me gasp in horror.
Ugh. Terrible pics. Now THAT'S a scandal. Why were they taking pictures of themselves (semi) nude anyway? It was indeed Aiba's fault for taking those pictures in the first place. Guhh. I wanted to cry. hahahaha. But oh well, the hot blooded youth.

I can see why Jun has no scandal (as of yet) and Sho remains (relatively) unscathed... Jun seems like the extremely private type while Sho seems like someone who is very professional. They do their best not to get careless.

I mostly agree with your opinions and i laughed wholeheartedly at the whole JunToshi/Ohmiya/etc. thing.. But I must disagree with the part regarding professionalism.

It is their responsibility as public figures to keep their private lives exactly that- private. Their being branded as an "idol" or and "entertainer" already marks them as slaves to the mass audience. They exist as idols to give the public what they want. No one wants an idol who is imperfect in AND off the camera. If "idols" were portrayed to be "just like everybody else" then where's the appeal to that? Why not just stick some random person on TV and call them an idol?

So yeah, I have nothing against Ohno having a girlfriend or ANYONE in Johnny's having a life outside the camera. (I'm sure Jun and Sho have their respective love lives too.) But they should really keep it all private. After all, we don't really need to know who's dating who and what they do inside the bedroom right? They should really be more careful with their images ne? ^^;;
"Hang on...NOOOOOOOOO! They are not just dating...they MUST be living together...!!!" <- *rolling.on.the.floor* this killed me, honestly!

i mean of course they have a privat life, ne? (although i kinda like the idea arashi ends up with arashi and living happily till the very end in two hundred years - maybe XD) and as long as they're happy, of course!

thanks for the entertaining!!
Well, in the first place, the idea that a Japanese idol must not, in any way, divulge the fact that they already have a girl/boyfriend is ridiculous to me. And I believe, as a rational human-being, one must never immerse his/herself in fanciful belief that his/her idol has no love relationship. For this reason, I think it is extremely ridiculous if one can exaggerate a two-shot picture of an idol with his/her partner, fully-clothed as a scandal. In Oh-chan's case, by saying that Oh-chan is unprofessional for failing to hide his relationship and that he'll bring down Arashi due to his carelessness, those fans or so-called fans just assert themselves as victims of the deception schemed by Johnny Jimusho. After all, if we are perfectly fine with a Johnny's idol having a girlfriend, we won't be bothered at all with such pictures. Really, I have no idea of these people's definition of scandal. 'Cause the scandals that I know of arise from behaviors which do not abide by law or generally-accepted moral or professional standards. And Oh-chan and Nino's pics do not violate any of those.
As for Aiba's pics, I never consider them as "scandal" since from my perspective, they're not doing anything indecent. Edison-like pics, i.e. pics with explicit sexual activities ARE scandals to me, to be more exact, sex scandals. But moral standards may differ for each person, so one may consider this as a scandal.
I fully agree with you regarding the responsibility of idols, well not only idols, but also other entertainers, celebrities in general, to give the public what they want and keep their professionalism by not creating any scandals. And I believe what you meant by "imperfect" is "not having any scandals". Of course, the sort of scandals I've defined above, not the so-called "scandals" arising from simply kissing/hugging their partners. ^^ True/devoted fans are not those who are easily swayed away from their idols because of the so-called "betrayal". The mass audience that you talked about consists of a mix of people - rabid and irrational fans, collected and rational fans, people with fleeting interest in the celebrity, etc. Only irrational fans, be them fans of idols or non-idols, find faults in the so-called "scandals". Nitpicking the so-called "scandals" seems to be practiced more by idol fans because the rules regarding those "scandals" have been established by the talent agency since who knows when.
I've heard about Nino and Aiba's 'scandal' before. What I haven't heard is how they response to it. I mean, apologizing? For what? Being a normal boy instead of gay as people expected them to be??

And that's what makes me mad.

I'm glad Captain didn't say anything at the concert. Coz I don't think he should be saying anything, much less an apology.

I see Aiba's pictures as an example of a hot-blooded young boy. He looked 'proud' to have a pretty -at least according to him she must be pretty- girlfriend and probably getting layed. Nino's pictures are more like rabu-rabu to me than 'scandalous'. And Oh-chan?? They look cute despite that she's older. And as you said, yes..it's a bit pulling it to the edge concluding they're together because Oh-chan's arm's around her. What about Nino and Oh-chan then?? They constantly do it...IN PUBLIC...they must be married already!!

But even if she WAS/IS Oh-chan's gf, so what?

I. Don't get it. When it comes to the definition of what's being 'scandalous', or how people exaggerate seeing things like this. I bet they take pictures too, with friends, bf, etc. So why does it makes a different when this guys do?! *shakes head*
hehehe, I laughed so hard when you mentioned every person that Ohno was dating! Ohno's quite the pimp!
I think the couple is cute, too! n.n

I'm on your side! I don't understand why "fans" can't handle their idols having a love partner. It's normal, ne?

I hope you don't mind that I added you. >.<

Thank you so much for this. As much as I love Arashi, I love them as a person too. I will always be supporting them, no matter who they choose as life's partner.. they have their own life, ne? as long as they are happy..yay!!

btw, nino-oh-chan is really dating?? i heard rumors they are married?? XD

Haha wow their heads are touching let's alert the media,
Magazines over exagerate everything! If I were to guess anyone out of those pictures are dating, I would guess Ohmiya fosho (: (: they are the cutest couple ever in my opinion!

And I find it funny how in America something considered hot by the media is girls kissing girls (Tila Tequila, need I say more?) but judged by Arashi pictures in Japan they must consider it cute for guys to play-kiss each other on cheeks and even lips (I consider it cute as well, but whenever my brother or some of my non-Arashi fan friends sees those as my screen-saver they automatically assume they are gay, when my fellow Arashi fans and probably other people in Japan just see it and are like "Aww kawaii!")

And I totally agree, if Ohno and that girl are "dating", then what are Ohno and Nino?! Haha!

I know people don't like seeing pictures of Arashi members with other girls, but they need to get used to it, because there guys and it's what they do! haha. I guess some people just like to think that Arashi just lives for each other and their fans and don't have lives, but they do and I guess it is something each fangirl/guy needs to realize.
lol, the tabloids are just hilarious. I mean seriously, if any of the boys are dating, then so be it! They're people too.. sheesh~ >//< Hahaha.. but i love the header on Nino's "scandalous" article 「キス写真からセミヌドまで・・・」笑!!!!!

Who says Japanese idols can't reveal girl/boyfriends? *blinks* There are quite a lot of idols getting married and publicly recognized as husband and wife. But I think in JE, they are under a strict code that they are not allowed to have (publicly known) girlfriends. Hahaha. But it's impossible to think otherwise ne? They ARE hot-blooded boys after all. LOL.

I think what makes this a scandal is the fact that JE forbids it and yet they are caught. Eep, there you go. Scandal. O_o But Oh-chan's pictures hardly seems harmful ne? It's even CUTE. Lol. (Like i wanna squish him to kingdom come)
But I don't think scandals could be limited to only sexual scandals. That's limiting it too much. Scandals are generally something that illicit public outrage.. Which is relative, in any case. ^^;; Obscenity really does differ in every society. So yeah, it's unavoidable ne?

With that, I really have to say something about Aiba's pics. ^^;; Let's put it this way.. Would you, a self-respecting, rational human-being, really take pictures of you and your girl/boy friend in semi-nude? For what purposes? ^^;; I guess, since Aiba is a hot-blooded male, it's for his personal uses ne... Who are we to question that right? But the point here is that he should have been extra, extra careful that it did not leak. It's his responsibility as an idol. And despite what people may say that "idols are human beings too" (No one is questioning that- of COURSE they're human too), their images are what they sell to people. Without their images, they are nothing. It's what makes an Idol and idol. The price they pay in exchange for being a celebrity... It's a little sad really but hey.. that's showbiz. ^^

I think what Aiba was apologizing to the fans was not "not being gay and being normal" but the fact that he had been careless and it had led to the tarnishing of his image. Also, for giving the fans a brief heart attack. LOL.

I'm sure that everyone in the celebrity world also have their dirty little secrets. It's a given. :) But the difference on whether this becomes a scandal is Information. Once people find out about it.. well, scandal! :) I guess we should just laugh about it and move on. It's all for publicity anyway. :)
Oh well. It was gonna happen sooner or later to Oh-chan too. Me, personally, I was a little surprised, and I do feel bad, not because Oh-chan is supposedly dating this girl, but because these magazines are making such a big deal out of it. I really hope Ohno doesn't get hurt by it. They really only look like friends to me too. It would be unfair to Captain to get mad at him for spending time with someone, who if he isn't dating, is obviously friends with (or was whenever the picture was taken).

Your comments about everyone who's ever been close to Ohno are so completely hilarious (even though I'd be jumping for joy if Jun and Ohno really were living together). xD
Well, I didn't limit scandals to only sex scandals, as in my previous comment, I did mention that I think of scandal as something arising from misconduct, causing the outburst of public outrage, as you've defined. Yeah, moral standards differ in every society, so Aiba-chan's "scandal" photos might be obscene to some people whereas to me, they are not (--> the matter of subjectivity). If they had been sex/explicitly nude photos, I would've definitely thought of him as being self-disrespecting. But since Aiba-chan lives in a society where even intimate photos like the above are disfavored, compounded with the fact that he's an idol, I do agree with you that he has to be extra careful with keeping his image clean. Not only Aiba-chan of course, but also the other idols. ^^
Well, the fact that Japanese idols are under strict code that they're not allowed to have (publicly known) girl/boyfriends means that they can't reveal their girl/boyfriends (to the public). --> This is what I was trying to get across. But of course, as you've said, there are exceptions, e.g. KimuTaku and Shizuka's marriage. From what I know, they usually divulge the fact that they have boy/girlfriends when they're about to get married. Otherwise, they have to keep any boy/girlfriend-related facts secrets.
Well, actually, my previous post was meant to explain what Oz was trying to convey through this post, not so much to debate over your view on professionalism (since I mostly agree with your statements anyway, so does Oz, I believe ^^). I think, most of us here consider Johnny's rule of not allowing its idols to reveal their boy/girlfriends to the public (putting aside the exceptions) ridiculous, no? For what purpose does this rule exist, really? Well, I understand that there are a lot of fans who love to fancy having their idols to themselves. This rule exists for these people. But these people, in any way, do not have the rights to claim that idols belong to them. Idols are indeed slaves to the public - they have to give the public what they want in a sense that they must refrain from creating any scandals. They are not fans' possessions. On the other hand, for true fans like us, we are not bothered at all with our idols publicly announcing their gfs and thus, this rule doesn't hold any significant value to us. We won't regard our idol as stupid and unprofessional for failing to follow this rule. Oz was basically irked by the fact that there are people who do not understand what it means to be true fans, dramatizing the so-called "scandal" while there is no need to do so. There is no need to get worked up over two-shot pictures of Oh-chan and Kimiko being friendly with each other or over Nino's kissing and hugging pics with his past girlfriend. Because, well, they are not scandals. ^^ The public (which consists of a wider range of audience, not only the stupid irrational fans) is not even outraged with such pictures. Even mass media are not interested in reporting these so called "scandals". If one can consider them as scandals (putting aside Aiba's photos since our opinions regarding his case are different), well I've to categorize them as people who are not true fans.
ah...how dare those people disturb our captain! Gosh, even the pix was taken sometime ago...they just never learn,aren't they?!
We love each one of Arashi members as a person & should respect their privacy as well as their love life.
idols are human being , social being as well...[actually i don't see the rational behind the code either...]

even if the pix existed, i'm glad that our spacey riida is actually not spacey at all...oh...straight too ^^... but if it's with Nino i'm fine KYAHAHAHA

ROFL...i love your comment !!!
everyone in Arashi is dating Ochan yoo... make that into big tabloid headlines XD
maa...i guess those publisher need to earn a living ne~....but please spare our boys!!!!!!!
Great post, Oz! I hope you had as much fun putting it together as I did reading it--sorting through all those photos must have been such toil ;) You are right--these guys deserve a social life as much as anyone. If we are really their fans, we should support their search for happiness in life. They give us such great joy--let's hope they can find someone who makes their eyes light up, too!
Ah well, that's the media for you. Hahaha. ^_^
We fans should just laugh it off and move on ne? :D And thanks to Oz' post, I had quite a good laugh. ^^

Thanks again for the post. :)
wacks,,
ohno..ganbatte
*i think it is enough*
well, i agree that fans better be more respect to their idol..
coz we love Ohno as an idol right. even sometimes we said that we are his wives^^
Wow! A scandal about Oh-chan... This means that now he has enought popularity for the tabloids to be interested in him? HAHAHAHAHA XD
But really, these "fans" must be crazy... he's a real person with his own life, and I can't see how having a girlfriend or taking photos with a girl could be considered as scandal... or now is something illegal and I don't know it? XD

^^ it's the Oz we know.

Great one!!

thanks for your comment and investigation!!

well, i'm happy to see ohno with girl.
but i prefer minami T^T
he always says that his type of girl is the one who look like him
and minami is!!!!

kimika and ohno's photo looked like friend more then lover
ohno is popular with the older, and he is super cute, no wonder if he act like her close brother or something there.

btw, ohno's scandal didn't get big reaction maybe coz we, the fans, really believe him and if he really is dating, it's becoz he love her and not for quickfun.

Haaahahah, from the perspective of the other photos... wow, once again, Ohno is dating everyone... hahahaha.

Who knows. Either way it doesn't bother me and I hope no one was really hurt by the photos.

it is adorable how happy Ohno looks there though. <3

I really agree with you about the scandal thing... to an extent I feel it's unprofessional to be careless about personal photos, but even when you're careful, things like this will STILL happen and that doesn't make an artist any less professional. The idea that it's a betrayal to the fans... I think it's absurd. I don't think any of the fans should think that their idols owe them that. These people have personal live and needs too, and as fans we ought to offer them silent support in that and not lash out with criticism every time we hear something about it. I hope Ohno never sees or hears anything like what those people wrote. *sigh*

(sidenote: Aiba looks so skinny in that first photo!! *dies* EAT SOMETHING, BOY! NO, NOT HER... I MEAN, HER TOO IF YOU WANT... BUT EAT SOME FOOD!!! GO! GO GET KARA'AGE OR SOMETHING!!)

wow, ohno...
i still don't know how you get the pictures...
but thanks for your hard work...
I knew about this scandal the day Maou was aired >__< I don't have anything against this. In fact, i have no feelings whatsoever regarding it. He looked happy. If he's happy, i'm happy. That's all matters...

Your sense of humour kills me!!! HAHAHAHAHHAHA.. I wanna die laughing! It didn't even occur to me about all the hugging and kissy pictures between Oh-chan and Jun-kun and Oh-chan and Nino XD;;; I mean come on... All these garbage magazines... Sheeshhh..

So Oh-chan likes the gravy type huh? Satoda Mai is also a gravy idol/swimming suit idol huh? I'd have preferred him to be with someone with a cute and honest personality like Kanjiya, one of the guests in AnS...

I'm more shocked seeing Aiba-chan's and Nino's photo.... OK.... Let's get rational. He's a guy. It's normal to have this sort of relationship. OK Nino might be bi.. hahahahahahahaha... OK whatever.. It's all in the past now..

What matters is.. If Oh-chan's happy, i'm happy. I want Oh-chan to be happy, to be successful :)
I feel like punching arashi in the head. I mean for heavens sake they're grown men, they can make their own decisions and choices. Although, I can kind of understand why the fans are upset, because they may decide to be serious and arashi will be no more. But I doubt that will ever happen. I think this jealousy of fans may be the desperate fan girls whom think they stand a chance with one of the boys.
The Aiba photos shocked me though.... But whatever floats his boat.
Good post though, the JunToshi ones were golden. Because we all know. In the papparazzi world there is no such thing as being good friends.
hihi, may i know which year is it for aiba's scandal?

even if they are idol, they are humans ~ is perfectly ok for them to date afterall ~ they are being normal.. dun see the need of any idol to apologizing over these photos.. is shld be those ppl who published or gif these photos to apologize ~

anyway, i think u wrote well!

wahahahahha! with all the crying and oh no, ohno! i've been reading, this was refreshing. Thanks. you made my day.

just one thing though, I do agree that idols should be more responsible with their actions...and that they're also entitled to have a life outside JE ofcourse...the ohno and nino pics look sweet...but aiba's are a little disgruntling..but well, as been said. it's all relative.

by the way, i added you to my neighborhood. I hope its okay. ^__^
when i first saw this (which is today), i felt something like "HUH"?!... what's with wrapping your arms around a girl?.. even for me, it doesn't really meant to be a scandal. i mean, why do they have to tell other people about other's private life?..i hate it!

i felt totally bad, but i guess that is what acting industry is all about. but with the words from the mag, i just can't control the anger (not to offend them). . but i guess, to much scandal is bad...i dont care if ohno or nino or aiba, or jun and sho do that, as long as it is a girl and they are TRUE to each other (take note: TRUE!). and they are true friends.. (dont medle with their life)

well, enough of this, i guess being a popular one is really a hard thing to manage. but i beg, please don't do anything that wil hurt ARASHI's feelings! i mean even though they are so popular, everything has an ending, everything has limitations, and being too harrased is too bad, i mean they're hurt too about this because with the words that other people are saying, they'll feel offended, or disgraced (for me, its too much).

about this scandal, i don't care how much arashi likes it, it's their life. but i know this needs a limitation, and ARASHI knows that.. they know their limitations more than we do. so let's just make their off-cam life private! :)

BTW, i added you, thnx for this!.. (pls don't feel offended about this..)

you where right about those fan that get mad when they find

out that any ARASHI mem have a love life they need to get a life

with me i think they should have a girlfriend because they make us happy with their music and all y cant they be happy come on they should ut anyways thank u for giveing us this info

sheeeeeeeesh! scandals... it's quite natural for celebs to get linked in scandals. the media loves juicy stories especially if the one involved is a big public figure--famous ones at that. poor Ohno-kun. fans got angry..? my gawsh... the scandal ruined his name. well... that's how the showbiz society works.
Who cares if they had a girlfriend??!! i mean its only natural right?? Its not fair if the fans should be mad at him. I mean they want all to be happy right? and if by having a girlfriend makes them happy the fans should be happy tooo!!!
[this is good]
Lol, this article made me laugh big time. Its true! like OMG, he put his arm around a girl, he HAS to be dating her right? Theres no other explaination right?? LOL then he MUST be dating Jun, Aiba, Nino and Sho cuz u know, they had their arms around eachother too and he even kissed some of them. He must be gay!! This made me LOL.

But the fact that in anywhere around the world, not just japan, when an idol has pictures of themselves like somewhat nude or wearing slutty clothes or looks "drunk" or with a girl/guy and they look timid to eachother or they have so called "drugs" or "alcohol" in their hands is all considered to be some form of a "scandal". Like take Miley Cyrus's scandal way bk, like ppl FREAKED out that there are pictures of her semi naked or has a bikini on because shes an idol to little girls, but she was frikin 15!! 15 year olds do that in everyday life and no one ever calls them a "slut". But then, if any other person like lindsay lohan or britney spears does that its considered normal, y? Because its all on the IMAGE. I bet Arashi is like that too. They are from JE and they are supposedly "perfect" and scandal free so once some little thing leaks, its HUGE. Its like a monsoon for paparazzis and TV shows and magazines. I think it is because they just do not expect ANYTHING like that from the boys, and its really a huge surprise for them about their actions. They expect them to be idols and set good examples for the generations below them but every generation does that, its uber normal. Like if u take any random 20 to 30 year old guy, he'll own pictures of himself like those of Aibas or Ninos and its not a big deal. Yes i do agree that it is the idols fault that they let the photos leak and become a scandal, but it is REALLY hard to do that because someone could easily hack into their system or email system or anything like that because of technology these days. Like i bet they did not just GIVE out the pictures or post them onto the internet because they would be crazy if they did anything of the sort. I bet jun and the other dude (forgot his name ;P) do not and did not have any scandals because they probably didnt even take pictures of the like. Or maybe they did but they were super careful with them. But all in all, its all on image, nothing else. It depends on ur image to what a "scandal" would be.

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